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CHERRUG
29/06/2008, 02:57 PM
Hi,

I have female saker falcon,but she have bumblefoot on the two feets.We make one operarion ,but maybe the bumblefoot coming again.I clean the feet whit solution Potassium permanganate and then whit Chinoseptan .

Would some one from you people help my with advice!

Please in english!!

Best regards

نبع الدموع
29/06/2008, 03:08 PM
Hi Cherrug, the best solution for such problem is to leave the falcone on sand all the time and give it the water for drink and nothing more
(no shower, no swimming, no hunting near water)
and for more information take a photos for the bumble foot and add it here so you can get more benefit

عرين
29/06/2008, 03:23 PM
Hi Cherrug, the best solution for such problem is to leave the falcone on sand all the time and give it the water for drink and nothing more

(no shower, no swimming, no hunting near water)

and for more information take a photos for the bumble foot and add it here so you can get more benefit



very very very good


This is the right solution in my view

قرناس حائل
29/06/2008, 03:38 PM
Good eveing
I think my brother Nabee Al Damou give you the soluation ( I appricate his work )
If you can represnt its picturres , that s good

many thanks to you and accept my wishes

CHERRUG
29/06/2008, 03:51 PM
Thank you all.

http://images26.snimka.bg/006211170.jpg

http://images26.snimka.bg/006211171.jpg
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http://images26.snimka.bg/006110208.jpg

المان العرب
29/06/2008, 03:52 PM
ياربع رجال ويش يقول

CHERRUG
29/06/2008, 04:03 PM
This Are first fotos from feets

http://images26.snimka.bg/006211340.jpg

http://images26.snimka.bg/006211341.jpg

بيضا القاع
29/06/2008, 04:19 PM
ياربع رجال ويش يقول
الله يسلمك يقول ان طيره صاير به مرض ويبغى يعالجه ويبي شوركم


but used car oil on his feet with the medicine

F J
29/06/2008, 04:26 PM
يقول كفوف طيره بهن بلا بس مدري وشو

يا زين العلم يا رجال

كاشخ 24 ساعه
29/06/2008, 04:31 PM
photos are not comming

try to upload more and try other host


by the way where are you form

افزعواله
29/06/2008, 04:45 PM
hii
The best way is that way which nba aldumoa advisced add must be take your falcon to the doctor becuse i see in the bectur denger state.

قلب ذيب
29/06/2008, 04:57 PM
photos are coming
but
bumblefoot
no medicin for it !!

المزروعي
29/06/2008, 05:06 PM
Sorry my friend to tell you that there is no chance for this falcon especially once it reach that level

ابرق العزاف
29/06/2008, 05:12 PM
صديقنا اعتقد انك غير انجليزي اليس كذلك سيد هناك مرهم يباع بالصيدليا اسمه (feetpalm )انه جيد للغايه لمرض صقرك والصور واضحه جدا شكرا لك Our friend

I think you're not English, is not it

Sayed there ointment sold pharmacies name (feetpalm) that good
Very satisfactory hawkish and images are very clear
Thank you

not for get crame (feet palm) in the pharmcy

وَسَام!
29/06/2008, 05:21 PM
يااخوان ممكن واحد يطاع صورة طير هالرجال !
نبغى نشوف شكل طيره لان صورته ماطلعت عندي!

النـادر
29/06/2008, 05:57 PM
my frind

first of all you hav to keep your falcon awy of water or solied sarfices

apply any ointment contain antibiotic

dont forget to cleen both foot two time daily with alchole pads

CHERRUG
29/06/2008, 05:58 PM
Thank you very much to all of you..... :):):)The Things that I read are not so good for my falcon:(:(:(, but thanks one more time I appreciate your help !!!:good::good::good:
http://images26.snimka.bg/006212198.jpg

أبو فهد العيد
29/06/2008, 06:52 PM
ماشاء الله عليكم...انا اشهد ان التعلوم زين

قرناس ارامكو
29/06/2008, 07:44 PM
Sorry my friend to tell you that there is no chance for this falcon especially once it reach that level
:no2: :no2: :no2:

نبع الدموع
29/06/2008, 09:02 PM
يا رجال وش الطير صحيح حر؟ تراني ما اشوف الصور
و الرجال يقول انة مسوي عملية للطير و الظاهر الصور
الي تتكلمون عنها قبل العملية لانة يقول انة خايف ان المرض
يرجعلة مرة ثانية و هذا الي يبيه.

همام5
29/06/2008, 09:31 PM
Hi,

I have female saker falcon,but she have bumblefoot on the two feets.We make one operarion ,but maybe the bumblefoot coming again.I clean the feet whit solution Potassium permanganate and then whit Chinoseptan .

Would some one from you people help my with advice!

Please in english!!


Best regards


My dear brother,

Saying the disease exists in the legs falcon disease known in the Arab states and called (Somare) and how the treatment of this disease (Vaseline) and this without the smell of Vaseline mixed with alum White

this is vasline
http://bsmlh.net/up/uploads/9dd67bf982.jpg

this is alum
http://www.classicshaving.com/i/Classic%20Brand/AlumBlockNew.jpg (http://www.classicshaving.com/i/Classic%20Brand/AlumBlockNew.jpg)

How to use:

White alum grinding until smooth powder and then mixed with Vaseline provided that the amount equal between articles and then put on the legs of the falcon until cured


Notes:

When using the above-mentioned treatment, please put a plastic bag on a chair so that the birds humid treatment to be cured as soon as

if you need any things im ready for help

CHERRUG
30/06/2008, 11:01 AM
My dear brother,

Saying the disease exists in the legs falcon disease known in the Arab states and called (Somare) and how the treatment of this disease (Vaseline) and this without the smell of Vaseline mixed with alum White

this is vasline
http://bsmlh.net/up/uploads/9dd67bf982.jpg

this is alum
http://www.classicshaving.com/i/Classic%20Brand/AlumBlockNew.jpg

How to use:

White alum grinding until smooth powder and then mixed with Vaseline provided that the amount equal between articles and then put on the legs of the falcon until cured


Notes:

When using the above-mentioned treatment, please put a plastic bag on a chair so that the birds humid treatment to be cured as soon as

if you need any things im ready for help



Thanks for the advice.:good::good::good:

All the best!!

mohammad 182
30/06/2008, 11:07 AM
بسم الله الرحمن الحیم

mohammad 182
30/06/2008, 11:14 AM
بسم الله الرحمن الرحیم

it's a gift for any who beleive in ALLAH
bombel foot can get good even in this situation
just do it in days: sit your bird on a warm fresh cow shit and let the feet go under shit completly and when you dont have it sit her on a fresh squeezed skin of granadier fruit
and at nights sit her on fat of cow( that are on meats) and if you dont have on fat of sheep that are around meats and if your bird keep her feet up put these fats under and around her feed and fasten in days your bird will be good if ALLAH want

العمراني
30/06/2008, 11:55 AM
يااشيخ هاذا يقوول الطير به حفااه الله اعلم بس تراا ما ترجمت حسيت اش يبي

نبع الدموع
30/06/2008, 12:17 PM
Thank you very much to all of you..... The Things that I read are not so good for my falcon, but thanks one more time I appreciate your help !!!
http://images26.snimka.bg/006212198.jpg
you have got so many solutions and the most important is to keep
the feet away from any liquid and keep it dry and the dry and hot sand will suck the pus.

by the way I like this design for your falcon walker
الرجال مدلعين طيورهم و الله شوفوا الشبة حقتهم شلون ماهي مثل طيورنا الي ارضيتها تقول يد بنشري
من حصاة لوكر تقال جيفة
:D
http://nk7cwa.blu.livefilestore.com/y1pwx7ghWmCI_JvRRNpOaIhTxcG6K7ULrJ95owXylvHPbHUq9s jphqKecnZXXaggDJqIhTIib-Kpfc/006110208.jpg

عبدالرحمن ‍
30/06/2008, 12:18 PM
يالربع.. اللي يطالبون الترجمه.. باختصار شديد

الرجال عنده طير وفيه سومار (السده) كلن ولهجته..

ويبغي منكم علاج لطيره .. ولكن حالت الطير متطوره ..

تقبلو مروري

المان العرب
30/06/2008, 12:21 PM
ماشاء الله عليكم...انا اشهد ان التعلوم زين
ايه باالله تعلم زين لو نعرف انجليزي كان علمناه صح ياولد حنيظل :D :D :D

ابرق العزاف
30/06/2008, 01:08 PM
Do you want a friend sell this apparent as the falcon
How Could wish the price amendment Saudi
Pregnant testimony health

CHERRUG
30/06/2008, 01:30 PM
you have got so many solutions and the most important is to keep
the feet away from any liquid and keep it dry and the dry and hot sand will suck the pus.



O.K. But need I any oitment? :)

CHERRUG
30/06/2008, 01:32 PM
Thank you for your english answer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:)

نبع الدموع
30/06/2008, 01:36 PM
You may need what Mr Nader Al-Jubail said

my frind

first of all you hav to keep your falcon awy of water or solied sarfices

apply any ointment contain antibiotic

dont forget to cleen both foot two time daily with alchole pads

by the way, where are you from? :)

CHERRUG
30/06/2008, 02:46 PM
Hi again,

I am from Rumania.
:)
Did I bandage the feets,this dry and hot sand .......I don't want any other problem whit feets of falcon
?
Best regards and thanks for care !!!:)

همام5
30/06/2008, 03:32 PM
My dear brother, Saying the disease exists in the legs falcon disease known in the Arab states and called (Somare) and how the treatment of this disease (Vaseline) and this without the smell of Vaseline mixed with alum White this is vaslinehttp://bsmlh.net/up/uploads/9dd67bf982.jpgthis is alumhttp://www.classicshaving.com/i/Classic%20Brand/Al umBlockNew.jpgHow to use: White alum grinding until smooth powder and then mixed with Vaseline provided that the amount equal between articles and then put on the legs of the falcon until cured Notes: When using the above-mentioned treatment, please put a plastic bag on a chair so that the birds humid treatment to be cured as soon asif you need any things im ready for help Fratele meu drag,

Saying bolii există în picioare falcon boli cunoscute în statele arabe şi a cerut (Somare) şi modul de tratare a acestei boli (Vaseline) şi acest lucru fără miros de Vaseline amestecat cu alum White

acest lucru este vasline
http://bsmlh.net/up/uploads/9dd67bf982.jpg

acest lucru este alum
http://www.classicshaving.com/i/Classic% 20Brand/Al umBlockNew.jpg http://www.classicshaving.com/t/Classic%20Brand/AlumBlockNew.jpg (http://www.classicshaving.com/catalog/item/522960/1256432.htm#image_1)

Cum să utilizaţi:

White alum de rectificat, până la buna pulbere si apoi amestecat cu Vaseline cu condiţia ca suma egală între articole şi apoi pus pe picioare de la vindecat până la falcon


Note:

Când utilizaţi mai sus menţionate, de tratament, vă rugăm să puneţi o pungă de plastic de pe un scaun, astfel încât păsările umede de tratament pentru a fi vindecat de îndată ce

daca aveti nevoie de orice lucruri im gata de ajutor

نبع الدموع
30/06/2008, 06:02 PM
you are most welcome here with us,
you do not need to bandge your falcon's feet at all just take the bandge out and
try to find a warm and dry sand (i think it is hard in your country but in our country we found it everywere even in side our houses :) ) just kidding :)

for what you use falcons in your country?
what tybe of prey you use the falcons for?

can we know?

CHERRUG
02/07/2008, 10:40 AM
السلام عليك

warm and dry sand......can I replace the sand whit electric pillow?

For this moment I am "1/2 bulgarian/romanian":D:D.In Bulgaria ,we don't hunt whit falcons,only demonstration.The falconry in Bulgaria is forbidden for this moment.?Romania...only work !

الشقب1
02/07/2008, 10:49 AM
مشكور اخوي الذيب على التوظيح تسلم ...

عا سبيل بر
02/07/2008, 10:56 AM
ما شاء الله عليكم يا المكشاتية

زانت علومكم

حسيت نفسي أتصفح جريد أنجليزية ..... أطرش بالزفة :looney:


سيو :D

CHERRUG
02/07/2008, 02:37 PM
شكور على كلّ صديقات ل مساعدة !

This is my first arabic sentence.I hope to andersand it:)

(:D:D:D:D...:no2:..with no LAUGHTER.....please,I'm a beginner
:D:D:D

Best regards!!!

افزعواله
02/07/2008, 02:45 PM
http://images26.snimka.bg/006110208.jpg

افزعواله
02/07/2008, 02:54 PM
هذي صورة طير الرجال
http://images26.snimka.bg/006110208.jpg

dugaish
02/07/2008, 03:04 PM
شكور على كلّ صديقات ل مساعدة !

This is my first arabic sentence.I hope to andersand it:)

(:D:D:D:D...:no2:..with no LAUGHTER.....please,I'm a beginner
:D:D:D

Best regards!!!
My Dear
i think you have to apply some original Bee Honey to your falcon feet because it contain all the thing that they advised you to do it contains antibiotics, moisturizer and cleaner in the same, time apply it twice daily for at least two weeks and it will be fine Insha'allah

your arabic begining is amazing keep going and you will learn how to writ it its a piece of kacke

CHERRUG
02/07/2008, 04:07 PM
My Dear
i think you have to apply some original Bee Honey to your falcon feet because it contain all the thing that they advised you to do it contains antibiotics, moisturizer and cleaner in the same, time apply it twice daily for at least two weeks and it will be fine Insha'allah

your arabic begining is amazing keep going and you will learn how to writ it its a piece of kacke



O.K.:good:

عا سبيل بر
02/07/2008, 06:24 PM
:D :D :D
God is fit of laughter was the word in the speech I wrote to

I am sorry if I understand laughter wrong

You best greetings

F J
02/07/2008, 06:50 PM
وش صديقاته

والله حارس بيتنا احسن منه..

CHERRUG
03/07/2008, 04:17 PM
Hi guys,

Can I understand your opinion about my saker?(like as bird,not like as bird whit bumblefoot:(:(:().

If you can,please in English.Your language is lovely,but is very hard!:rolleyes:

All the best!!!:)

ابرق العزاف
04/07/2008, 08:10 AM
Hi guys,

Can I understand your opinion about my saker?(like as bird,not like as bird whit bumblefoot:(:(:().

If you can,please in English.Your language is lovely,but is very hard!:rolleyes:

All the best!!!:)


مرحبا يا شباب ،

يمكن ان أفهم رأيك عن الصقر في بلدي ؟) هل هو مثل الطيور ،ا وليس مثل الطيور من ناحية مرض القدمين

اذا كنت تستطيع الاجابه، يرجى بالانجليزيه اذا لم يكن صعب عليك0000
كل خير

BeLoveLy
04/07/2008, 09:13 AM
Hi Mr: CHERRUG
your falcon are same falcons in my country,and i wont tell you some thing,your falcon are AMAZING, that`s my opinion.
thanks

CHERRUG
04/07/2008, 11:04 AM
Hi Mr: CHERRUG
your falcon are same falcons in my country,and i wont tell you some thing,your falcon are AMAZING, that`s my opinion.
thanks

Thanks for nice words:):):)

:good:All the best guys

ماجد الهلالي
04/07/2008, 01:01 PM
نبي مترجم لنا هههههههههههههههههههههههههههههههه

abu saud
05/07/2008, 12:15 PM
HI
THIS IS SOME INFORMATION I FOUND IT IN ONE OF THE FALCONRY SITES I HOOP IT WILL HELP YOU
Feet
Any sort of injury to the feet is potentially very problematic. A small corn on the bottom of the foot is the beginnings of bumblefoot. The corn will swell, become warm to the touch, and begin to turn red and the hawk will try to lay down to prevent having to stand on the sore foot. Proper perching surfaces and nutrition are the best preventions. Bumblefoot will usually respond well to external cleansing of the site and removal of the corns that have formed as well as an external antibiotic.
A "proper" perching surface is up for debate. Some recommended surfaces range from a tire to Astroturf, however there is much debate around the optimal surfaces. One vet I consulted with commented that every bumblefoot case he has seen has the "welcome mat" type of Astroturf in the recent history. The speculation was from the physical characteristics to the chemical properties, but the advice was to avoid it. The most highly recommended types of perch surfaces are those of natural origin - hemp rope wrapped perches, sisal, cocoa mats, bark, and cork are all natural fibers and provide a variety for the bird. Be aware of any chemical treatments that have been applied to these as additives such as formaldehyde are discouraged. A variety of perch diameters will also help to ensure that the feet are not worn unevenly. Leaving a bird perched on icy, hard surfaces can insult the skin on the foot as well as a sharp object.
Removing any sharp surfaces from the bird's vicinity will prevent her from injuring her foot and starting an infection.
Soaking the feet once a week or scrubbing the feet with a soft toothbrush and Dial antibacterial soap are good ways to keep them clean and healthy. Pay special attention to keep the underside of the talon where it meets the skin free of dried meat. Frequently this is a site where meat and blood collect and eventually irritate leading to an infection. Cleaning along that site will prevent the problem. Massaging a tiny amount of foot salve into the feet can also be beneficial. Care should be taken here to prevent dirt from collecting on that surface as it would be worse than not doing anything. Also use a tiny amount massaged in fully else the bird will wipe the salve off onto her feathers when she pulls a foot up. A simple yet effective salve can be made by mixing one part anhydrous lanolin with one part Dermaclense. The horse hoof care ointment Corona is also a thick salve combining moisturizing and antibacterial properties. Rubbing a salve of this type onto a minor foot problem twice a day can quickly revert the problem.

ALSO IN NY OPINION YOU CAN FILL a meduim size plastic pocket with sand and put your bird on it any time you see small red like popcorn in the bottom of your bird foot

CHERRUG
06/07/2008, 01:15 PM
HI
THIS IS SOME INFORMATION I FOUND IT IN ONE OF THE FALCONRY SITES I HOOP IT WILL HELP YOU
Feet
Any sort of injury to the feet is potentially very problematic. A small corn on the bottom of the foot is the beginnings of bumblefoot. The corn will swell, become warm to the touch, and begin to turn red and the hawk will try to lay down to prevent having to stand on the sore foot. Proper perching surfaces and nutrition are the best preventions. Bumblefoot will usually respond well to external cleansing of the site and removal of the corns that have formed as well as an external antibiotic.
A "proper" perching surface is up for debate. Some recommended surfaces range from a tire to Astroturf, however there is much debate around the optimal surfaces. One vet I consulted with commented that every bumblefoot case he has seen has the "welcome mat" type of Astroturf in the recent history. The speculation was from the physical characteristics to the chemical properties, but the advice was to avoid it. The most highly recommended types of perch surfaces are those of natural origin - hemp rope wrapped perches, sisal, cocoa mats, bark, and cork are all natural fibers and provide a variety for the bird. Be aware of any chemical treatments that have been applied to these as additives such as formaldehyde are discouraged. A variety of perch diameters will also help to ensure that the feet are not worn unevenly. Leaving a bird perched on icy, hard surfaces can insult the skin on the foot as well as a sharp object.
Removing any sharp surfaces from the bird's vicinity will prevent her from injuring her foot and starting an infection.
Soaking the feet once a week or scrubbing the feet with a soft toothbrush and Dial antibacterial soap are good ways to keep them clean and healthy. Pay special attention to keep the underside of the talon where it meets the skin free of dried meat. Frequently this is a site where meat and blood collect and eventually irritate leading to an infection. Cleaning along that site will prevent the problem. Massaging a tiny amount of foot salve into the feet can also be beneficial. Care should be taken here to prevent dirt from collecting on that surface as it would be worse than not doing anything. Also use a tiny amount massaged in fully else the bird will wipe the salve off onto her feathers when she pulls a foot up. A simple yet effective salve can be made by mixing one part anhydrous lanolin with one part Dermaclense. The horse hoof care ointment Corona is also a thick salve combining moisturizing and antibacterial properties. Rubbing a salve of this type onto a minor foot problem twice a day can quickly revert the problem.

ALSO IN NY OPINION YOU CAN FILL a meduim size plastic pocket with sand and put your bird on it any time you see small red like popcorn in the bottom of your bird foot

Thank you for the attention,for the care and for understanding!!

Goot luck!!!:)

راعي بيشة
06/07/2008, 01:19 PM
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